Well, I've read most of the manifesto and no... she does not have anything very interesting or original to say about any of those subjects. (A lot of modern art is pretentious twaddle? My God, stop the presses!) But I did find the work interesting for a different reason: My first, and strongest impression while reading was that it wasn't really about men at all. Rather, it's primarily an expression of self-loathing. Consider this paragraph near the beginning:
The male is completely egocentric, trapped inside himself, incapable of empathizing or identifying with others, or love, friendship, affection of tenderness. He is a completely isolated unit, incapable of rapport with anyone.
Who is she talking about here? Someone who is disconnected from other people, and empty of any feeling besides rage? Someone, for instance, who would try to kill an acquaintance over a petty slight, as she did to Andy Warhol?
She's talking about herself, folks... the rage is directed inward as much as it is outward. This is a hopeless victim talking, not a feminist.
Hmm. Has anyone out there read the work and have a different take?
June 22 2004, 13:26:14 UTC 7 years ago
Ehh, herself, guys she's known. The extrapolation of one's very specific and rarefied personal experience to represent all human experience. Always tiresome. =)
June 22 2004, 13:37:46 UTC 7 years ago
Yep. And as online Whedonverse fans, we've seen quite a bit of that, haven't we?
June 24 2004, 11:35:14 UTC 7 years ago
This is not a critique of patriarchy or capitalism. It's not just a scream, either. The SCUM Manifesto is not an hysterical outpouring of emotion. It's a work of fantasy -- shorter and funnier than The Female Man (although not a fraction as smart). An attempt to imagine a world more free and less boring. Not a work of politics -- a poem.
Anonymous
June 24 2004, 11:39:53 UTC 7 years ago
June 24 2004, 16:09:47 UTC 7 years ago
The Transrationalist Manifesto
I have created my response to the SCUM Manifesto in my own manifesto, called the Transrationalist Manifesto.June 25 2004, 14:10:12 UTC 7 years ago
Re: The Transrationalist Manifesto
Bwahahahah! That's the best response there probably could be.Hi also to wanderingaengus; is your avatar a pencil drawing of Will Ferrel? Well, anyway... who knows why we find different things funny? I laugh my ass off when I hear Wesley Willis atonally singing "I whupped Batman's ASS!" over and over, but I know other people may not find it funny. And I don't find SCUM funny.* Except for the parts that are probably unintentionally hilarious. On the other hand, I don't find it very threatening either, because it's too over-the-top to take seriously.
Did Solanas herself intend it to be taken seriously? Hard to say... I recall reading that she claimed that it was satirical, but that's rather undercut by the fact that she seemed to be putting the essay's recommendation into practice herself.
Hi also to the anonymous person. That's another way of looking at it; that she both despised and envied the men who held most of the power in her society. A lot of the essay works on inversion; taking terms that men commonly used to describe themselves (logical, responsible) as well as those they used to describe women (animalistic, undifferentiated, etc) and simply turning them on their head. In the hands of someone with more coherent thought processes this might've worked, but in SCUM it seems more like schoolyard taunting (no, you're the stupidhead!) than anything else.
(I've just re-read the section in which it describes the way that every boy wants to "fuse" with his mother... there's something really, really funny about a crazy misandrist regurgitating Freud whole. =) )